reniaa: you ever call bethel? you ever try talking to them dopes? I would guess not . they are the most RUDE, SECRETIVE, DISHONEST, NO ONE AT BETHEL WILL GIVE YOU THEIR NAME. EVEN FIRST NAME. NASTIEST PIECES OF SHIT , KNOWN TO TAKE A PHONE CALL. THEY MAKE THE SPANISH INQUISTION LOOK LIKE CHILDS PLAY JUST FOR CALLING THEM ON THE PHONE.. IT'S ALL A 3RD DEGREE FOR YOU EVEN HAVING THE NERVE TO CALL BETH-HELL AND ASK THEM A SIMPLE QUESTION. BILL COLLECTORS ARE 100X NICER DEALING WITH WHILE THEY ARE THROWING YOU OUT OF YOUR HOME . THAN a 10 MINUTE call tO them SCUM BAGS AT BETH-HELL. Raniaa I read alot of your crap on this site, and I know your nothing but a KEYBOARD WARRIOR. I'll give you a real chance just PM me and we will talk on the telephone, I'll record it. and post it here for everyone to listen to. I'll make 2 predictions now, first you will make some stupid excuse and post some obscure bible verse ( as you always do to back out of the facts) . or second we will talk on the phone, and I will expose you in less than 15 minutes. (that's how good I am). Till then I see right through your tactics, and see you as nothing more than a CON ARTIST,$HIT STIRRED, WORSHIPPER OF THE WTS ETC. I'll be waiting for your PM, and trust me I'll post the conversation here win or lose . just to show everyone here that gets all excited from your posts that your nothing but smoke and mirrors... rutherFRAUD the WT EXPOSER
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Worldly person tries to call HQ for convention info.
by AuntBee inat someone's suggestion, i tried calling a few phone numbers to get more detailed convention info.
i kind of want to tape the rest, it feels so incomplete, and i wanted to hear the rest for my own research.
basically i wanted to know which one a certain congregation would be attending.
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Older posters check in...just post your name...we need to hear from you!
by restrangled ini am not the oldest but have 3 years here!
restrangled.. how about you?.
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I came here in 2001
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The Stupidity of The JW "Ministry"
by minimus ini was baptized at 9 years of age.
i was then a "minister".
jw ministers are any jws that are baptized.
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I love embarassing jw parents for taking little 9 year kids out to lie to householders. then i build up the kids by asking the parents why they are not taking the kids to the beach or park and making then wear monkey suits, peddling dope. then I ask the kids wouldn't you be happier riding your bike or at a birthday party/summer camp? I straight out tell the kids one day they will see the wt is full of crap and how mommy and daddy abused them. then I insult the parents for being rotten parents. I feel sorry you you minimus.
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The Stupidity of The JW "Ministry"
by minimus ini was baptized at 9 years of age.
i was then a "minister".
jw ministers are any jws that are baptized.
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After i beat up jw's on their lack of accurate knowledge of the bible/watchtower I ask a SIMPLE QUESTION "WHO TOLD YOU YOUR A MINISTER OF GOD?" they always walk away begging for mercy. like taking candy from a baby
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food at the proper time defense - help
by song19 innothing irritates me more than after spending hours showing a dub exactly why they are wrong and why they are false prophets... rather than defend themselves on each subject they all seem to go back to the food at the proper time argument and stop thinking.
its like everything said is wiped clear.. .
anyhoo, i am now left to contest that argument... before i do, i would like to get some of your feedback on good ways to overcome their broken record answer..
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I make jw's cry with "proper spritual food at the proper time" It's so easy to pick any false teaching/prophecy etc. and RAM it down any jw's throat, by pressing the crap out of them was this really from Joe Hovers Table. that bull crap is true religion? ha ha ha so Hitler was going to win the war? ha ha ha, Joe HOver built the pyramids. ha haH HA BLACK PEOPLE are going to turn white? ha ha ha. satan created crop eating bugs. ho ho ho. jesus tells the wts what to print. ha ha ha don't make me laugh. I never lost this argument in fact I always start it with jw's just to make them look like dopes. rutherFRAUD
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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall
by Hobo Ken inthis is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.
he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.
this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.
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Let me give you an example of the mentality of Ronnie Hunter he said to me " I have absolutely no doubt that the Kingdom was established in 1914" My dad was even worse on the 1914 genenation doctrine. he would get 30 minutes sermons , this generation is dying out , I mean the whole nine yards and he was great at it, till about 10 years ago I informed him that the wt no longer teaches it. dad your teaching old light... I as fighting with him daily on this for about a year. till he finally admitted to himself that the wt stopped teaching it. now I tell him he should go to every person he preached this to in the name of joe-hover and say he's sorry for being a false prophet. he gets so pissed my brothers or me throw it in his face. when ever he tries to preach I stop him and say " dad why don't you give us your famous sermon about the generation of 1914" ? that proper spritual food you were spouting for the last 40 years. laughing at anyone that didn't agree with you. come on dad lets here again... he gets so mad, he knows I busted him and I never let him forget it.
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It's Been A While
by mrsjones5 inhi folks, yep haven't been here awhile, a lot of stuff has happened: lost the house, packed up and took what we could and drove to california.
and before that all happened my computor crashed and i couldn't tell the board what was going on (newsflash: i truely hate the ipod/iphone app for the board - sorry simon).. so we're here in cali, in roseville.
i don't have a job but i'm looking.
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mrs. jones and skally wagger are 2 of the best apostates I've ever known. talk about accurate knowledge of the wts ripping jw's from one end of yahoo to the other. these ladies are in a league of their own. WT EXPOSER
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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall
by Hobo Ken inthis is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.
he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.
this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.
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WOW KEN great job telling this guy he's calling your wife a common whore. that takes a lot of balls on his part. you put him in his place on that. I like the way you called him a liar and then told him liars will not enter the kingdom, calling him a slander, a crap shephed you kept him on his heels he's keeps saying he's sorry for being a jackass. he keeps lying about what he said to your wifes mother. and I glad yoiu kept pressing him on it. you always have to press these dopes. he never remembers anything because he's a washwoman. he can't answer you about what you believe is not in the bible. this guy is a piece of shit. this guy doesn't want to touch 607 1914 1918 with a ten foot pole. then you told him if he wants to teach these lies door to door he's going to be destroyed. very nice your telling him he's blind. you got him good on the fruits of the sprit. he's admitting he's a liar and trouble maker. he's sorry for lying I love the way you keep pressing him. put his head in a vise. you should have told him the wts worshipped jesus till 1954. i love the way you told him jesus was worshipped and he can get out of it he has no answers. he's agreeing with you with tells me he's not so sharp. your making this guy look like a spritual drunkard, he doesn't know which side of the fence he stands on with jesus? this guy is supposed to be a big shot jw? MISTER KEN you ripped this guy to shreads. oh boy i really like this much better than the other tapes. I was waiting for you to smack him in the face for calling your wife a whore,. ken this guy is weak all you have to do is put a little pressure on this guy and he folds like a house of cards. I only wish i wasn't 1000's of miles away I would love to have a go at this dope. again GREAT WORK KEN TO YOU AND YOUR WIFE. your fellow WT EXPOSER rutherFRAUD
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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall
by Hobo Ken inthis is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.
he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.
this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.
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I have listened to the first 7 tapes of ken and his wife. And my hat is off to both of them, BIG TIME . they have lots of nerve and busted these elders over and over and over again and again. this is a must listen for any jw's wishing to leave the wts. my only problem with these tapes is was ken and wife were way too nice. i used to have these nice talks with elders, and let them direct these talks. I have learned to stop jw's in their tracks and not let them get a word in edge wise, and totally domonate the conversation from start to end. making the jw's beg for mercy for every false thing they say to the point of making them cry uncle. AGAIN I WANT TO THANK KEN AND WIFE FOR THEIR STRENGHT STANDING UP TO THESE SCUM. There is a lot to learn from these tapes. stop asking stupid questions on this site and learn from a REAL MAN KEN.
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BREAKING NEWS: WATCHTOWER IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS.
by Scott77 ini have read today this quote from one member on facebook going by the name of ruth eeker.. .
based on her quote, she states that "as well in regards to the un, the society has various name versions registered still in the un.
so they are still not completely out of the supposed beast!".
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There is an ngo group run by the wts out of france i think and it's called something like afrique' don't quote me on the spelling. there are some wt and awake mag's showing jw's getting baptized in U.N. pools, and oTHER WAYS JW'S used U.N. planes ,trucks, food etc. to get into africa/ or use the U.N. banner to support the wts getting into these places. again this info is on this site and others. I have no links just memory.